A conjecture about the sum of the areas of three triangles built on the sides of any given triangle











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Given any triangle $triangle ABC$, and given one of its side, we can draw two lines perpendicular to that side passing through its two vertices. If we do this construction for each side, we obtain the points $D,E,F$ where two of these perpendicular lines meet at the minimum distance to each side.



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These three points can be used to build three triangles on each side of the starting triangle.



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The conjecture is that




The sum of the areas of the triangles $triangle AFB$, $triangle BDC$, and $triangle CEA$ is equal to the area of $triangle ABC$.




This is likely an obvious and very well known result. But I cannot find an easy proof of this. Therefore I apologize for possible triviality, and I thank you for any suggestion.










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    I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
    – Raptor
    Nov 9 at 7:58










  • I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
    – Enkidu
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • The heights are meeting at that point
    – Moti
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • Thanks all for your comments!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:38










  • @Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:52















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Given any triangle $triangle ABC$, and given one of its side, we can draw two lines perpendicular to that side passing through its two vertices. If we do this construction for each side, we obtain the points $D,E,F$ where two of these perpendicular lines meet at the minimum distance to each side.



enter image description here



These three points can be used to build three triangles on each side of the starting triangle.



enter image description here



The conjecture is that




The sum of the areas of the triangles $triangle AFB$, $triangle BDC$, and $triangle CEA$ is equal to the area of $triangle ABC$.




This is likely an obvious and very well known result. But I cannot find an easy proof of this. Therefore I apologize for possible triviality, and I thank you for any suggestion.










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    I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
    – Raptor
    Nov 9 at 7:58










  • I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
    – Enkidu
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • The heights are meeting at that point
    – Moti
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • Thanks all for your comments!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:38










  • @Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:52













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Given any triangle $triangle ABC$, and given one of its side, we can draw two lines perpendicular to that side passing through its two vertices. If we do this construction for each side, we obtain the points $D,E,F$ where two of these perpendicular lines meet at the minimum distance to each side.



enter image description here



These three points can be used to build three triangles on each side of the starting triangle.



enter image description here



The conjecture is that




The sum of the areas of the triangles $triangle AFB$, $triangle BDC$, and $triangle CEA$ is equal to the area of $triangle ABC$.




This is likely an obvious and very well known result. But I cannot find an easy proof of this. Therefore I apologize for possible triviality, and I thank you for any suggestion.










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Given any triangle $triangle ABC$, and given one of its side, we can draw two lines perpendicular to that side passing through its two vertices. If we do this construction for each side, we obtain the points $D,E,F$ where two of these perpendicular lines meet at the minimum distance to each side.



enter image description here



These three points can be used to build three triangles on each side of the starting triangle.



enter image description here



The conjecture is that




The sum of the areas of the triangles $triangle AFB$, $triangle BDC$, and $triangle CEA$ is equal to the area of $triangle ABC$.




This is likely an obvious and very well known result. But I cannot find an easy proof of this. Therefore I apologize for possible triviality, and I thank you for any suggestion.







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    I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
    – Raptor
    Nov 9 at 7:58










  • I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
    – Enkidu
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • The heights are meeting at that point
    – Moti
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • Thanks all for your comments!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:38










  • @Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:52














  • 1




    I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
    – Raptor
    Nov 9 at 7:58










  • I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
    – Enkidu
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • The heights are meeting at that point
    – Moti
    Nov 9 at 8:14










  • Thanks all for your comments!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:38










  • @Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
    – user559615
    Nov 9 at 9:52








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I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
– Raptor
Nov 9 at 7:58




I am not too sure but did you consider that there might be a point inside the triangle, $G$ such that $AFBG$, $BDCG$ and $AECG$ are parallelograms?
– Raptor
Nov 9 at 7:58












I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
– Enkidu
Nov 9 at 8:14




I agree with Raptor, and would guess it is the center of the inner circle. i.e. intersection of angle symmetrals. however, have you also tried it for triangles with an obtuse angle? there should be weird stuff happening there, since one of you orthogonals actually will go into the triangle!
– Enkidu
Nov 9 at 8:14












The heights are meeting at that point
– Moti
Nov 9 at 8:14




The heights are meeting at that point
– Moti
Nov 9 at 8:14












Thanks all for your comments!
– user559615
Nov 9 at 9:38




Thanks all for your comments!
– user559615
Nov 9 at 9:38












@Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
– user559615
Nov 9 at 9:52




@Raptor@Enkidu. Working on it!
– user559615
Nov 9 at 9:52










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Draw the orthocenter. You get three parallelograms which immediately provide the answer.






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  • Nice and easy solution!
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    Nov 9 at 8:31


















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The answer of Moti is perfect.
Note, though, that this also means that this property holds only if the orthocenter is inside the triangle, otherwise the external triangles overlap and the required property does not hold any more.



Internal orthocenter.



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External orthocenter.



enter image description here






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    No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
    – Francesco Iovine
    Nov 9 at 11:51








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    Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
    – Blue
    Nov 9 at 11:54










  • @FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
    – Vaelus
    Nov 9 at 12:57











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Draw the orthocenter. You get three parallelograms which immediately provide the answer.






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Draw the orthocenter. You get three parallelograms which immediately provide the answer.






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Draw the orthocenter. You get three parallelograms which immediately provide the answer.






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  • Nice and easy solution!
    – YiFan
    Nov 9 at 8:31


















  • Nice and easy solution!
    – YiFan
    Nov 9 at 8:31
















Nice and easy solution!
– YiFan
Nov 9 at 8:31




Nice and easy solution!
– YiFan
Nov 9 at 8:31










up vote
12
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The answer of Moti is perfect.
Note, though, that this also means that this property holds only if the orthocenter is inside the triangle, otherwise the external triangles overlap and the required property does not hold any more.



Internal orthocenter.



enter image description here



External orthocenter.



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer

















  • 2




    No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
    – Francesco Iovine
    Nov 9 at 11:51








  • 2




    Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
    – Blue
    Nov 9 at 11:54










  • @FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
    – Vaelus
    Nov 9 at 12:57















up vote
12
down vote













The answer of Moti is perfect.
Note, though, that this also means that this property holds only if the orthocenter is inside the triangle, otherwise the external triangles overlap and the required property does not hold any more.



Internal orthocenter.



enter image description here



External orthocenter.



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer

















  • 2




    No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
    – Francesco Iovine
    Nov 9 at 11:51








  • 2




    Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
    – Blue
    Nov 9 at 11:54










  • @FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
    – Vaelus
    Nov 9 at 12:57













up vote
12
down vote










up vote
12
down vote









The answer of Moti is perfect.
Note, though, that this also means that this property holds only if the orthocenter is inside the triangle, otherwise the external triangles overlap and the required property does not hold any more.



Internal orthocenter.



enter image description here



External orthocenter.



enter image description here






share|cite|improve this answer












The answer of Moti is perfect.
Note, though, that this also means that this property holds only if the orthocenter is inside the triangle, otherwise the external triangles overlap and the required property does not hold any more.



Internal orthocenter.



enter image description here



External orthocenter.



enter image description here







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answered Nov 9 at 11:32









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  • 2




    No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
    – Francesco Iovine
    Nov 9 at 11:51








  • 2




    Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
    – Blue
    Nov 9 at 11:54










  • @FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
    – Vaelus
    Nov 9 at 12:57














  • 2




    No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
    – Francesco Iovine
    Nov 9 at 11:51








  • 2




    Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
    – Blue
    Nov 9 at 11:54










  • @FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
    – Vaelus
    Nov 9 at 12:57








2




2




No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
– Francesco Iovine
Nov 9 at 11:51






No, I do not think so. Maybe that we must consider the oriented area of the triangles build with respect to each side. I guess that the sum of the oriented areas of these triangles (some positive some negative) still equals the area of the original triangle.
– Francesco Iovine
Nov 9 at 11:51






2




2




Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
– Blue
Nov 9 at 11:54




Signed areas do, indeed, save the result.
– Blue
Nov 9 at 11:54












@FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
– Vaelus
Nov 9 at 12:57




@FrancescoIovine That the sum of the oriented areas is equal to the original triangle's area is also easily shown using the orthocenter.
– Vaelus
Nov 9 at 12:57


















 

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