Hyperref bug with a def











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The following very MWE shows the issue, which disappears when the call to hyperref is commented:



documentclass{article}

defn{textup{tiny N}}
deft{textup{tiny T}}

usepackage{hyperref}

begin{document}

${}_{t}$
$_{t}$
${}_{t}$
$_t$

end{document}


However, it compiles fine when hyperref is called before the two def.










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    hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
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    Nov 11 at 22:36

















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The following very MWE shows the issue, which disappears when the call to hyperref is commented:



documentclass{article}

defn{textup{tiny N}}
deft{textup{tiny T}}

usepackage{hyperref}

begin{document}

${}_{t}$
$_{t}$
${}_{t}$
$_t$

end{document}


However, it compiles fine when hyperref is called before the two def.










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  • 4




    hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
    – moewe
    Nov 11 at 22:36















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up vote
2
down vote

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The following very MWE shows the issue, which disappears when the call to hyperref is commented:



documentclass{article}

defn{textup{tiny N}}
deft{textup{tiny T}}

usepackage{hyperref}

begin{document}

${}_{t}$
$_{t}$
${}_{t}$
$_t$

end{document}


However, it compiles fine when hyperref is called before the two def.










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The following very MWE shows the issue, which disappears when the call to hyperref is commented:



documentclass{article}

defn{textup{tiny N}}
deft{textup{tiny T}}

usepackage{hyperref}

begin{document}

${}_{t}$
$_{t}$
${}_{t}$
$_t$

end{document}


However, it compiles fine when hyperref is called before the two def.







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  • 4




    hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
    – moewe
    Nov 11 at 22:36
















  • 4




    hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
    – moewe
    Nov 11 at 22:36










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hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
– moewe
Nov 11 at 22:36






hyperref or one of the packages it loads redefines t. I suggest you take a different name for you macro, one letter names are always tightly contested and therefore dangerous. BTW: This is one of the reasons why it makes sense to (1) load all packages before you define custom commands and apply other (re-)definitions and (2) to use newcommand. If you had usepackage{hyperref}newcommandt{textup{tiny T}}, you would have gotten an error.
– moewe
Nov 11 at 22:36












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If you use newcommand instead of def, you'll clearly see the source of the problem:



! LaTeX Error: Command t already defined.
Or name end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.


The t command is defined in the LaTeX Internal Character Representation for the “tie accent” and hyperref assumes this is the meaning of t. Since it has to do several patches for its working, you end up with t being essentially redefined to its original meaning, which can be seen if you add showt after begin{document}



> t=macro:
->PD1-cmd t PD1t .


Without your redefinition and without hyperref, you'd get



> t=macro:
->OML-cmd t OMLt .


which is essentially the same (the encoding name may change when show is used for technical reasons which are beyond the scope of this answer).



Moral: don't use def if you don't know precisely what you're doing. And never redefine a command with renewcommand if you don't know precisely about it.






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  • Thanks. I should have guess but the error message disturbed me a bit.
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If you use newcommand instead of def, you'll clearly see the source of the problem:



! LaTeX Error: Command t already defined.
Or name end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.


The t command is defined in the LaTeX Internal Character Representation for the “tie accent” and hyperref assumes this is the meaning of t. Since it has to do several patches for its working, you end up with t being essentially redefined to its original meaning, which can be seen if you add showt after begin{document}



> t=macro:
->PD1-cmd t PD1t .


Without your redefinition and without hyperref, you'd get



> t=macro:
->OML-cmd t OMLt .


which is essentially the same (the encoding name may change when show is used for technical reasons which are beyond the scope of this answer).



Moral: don't use def if you don't know precisely what you're doing. And never redefine a command with renewcommand if you don't know precisely about it.






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  • Thanks. I should have guess but the error message disturbed me a bit.
    – pluton
    Nov 12 at 8:28















up vote
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down vote



accepted










If you use newcommand instead of def, you'll clearly see the source of the problem:



! LaTeX Error: Command t already defined.
Or name end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.


The t command is defined in the LaTeX Internal Character Representation for the “tie accent” and hyperref assumes this is the meaning of t. Since it has to do several patches for its working, you end up with t being essentially redefined to its original meaning, which can be seen if you add showt after begin{document}



> t=macro:
->PD1-cmd t PD1t .


Without your redefinition and without hyperref, you'd get



> t=macro:
->OML-cmd t OMLt .


which is essentially the same (the encoding name may change when show is used for technical reasons which are beyond the scope of this answer).



Moral: don't use def if you don't know precisely what you're doing. And never redefine a command with renewcommand if you don't know precisely about it.






share|improve this answer





















  • Thanks. I should have guess but the error message disturbed me a bit.
    – pluton
    Nov 12 at 8:28













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If you use newcommand instead of def, you'll clearly see the source of the problem:



! LaTeX Error: Command t already defined.
Or name end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.


The t command is defined in the LaTeX Internal Character Representation for the “tie accent” and hyperref assumes this is the meaning of t. Since it has to do several patches for its working, you end up with t being essentially redefined to its original meaning, which can be seen if you add showt after begin{document}



> t=macro:
->PD1-cmd t PD1t .


Without your redefinition and without hyperref, you'd get



> t=macro:
->OML-cmd t OMLt .


which is essentially the same (the encoding name may change when show is used for technical reasons which are beyond the scope of this answer).



Moral: don't use def if you don't know precisely what you're doing. And never redefine a command with renewcommand if you don't know precisely about it.






share|improve this answer












If you use newcommand instead of def, you'll clearly see the source of the problem:



! LaTeX Error: Command t already defined.
Or name end... illegal, see p.192 of the manual.


The t command is defined in the LaTeX Internal Character Representation for the “tie accent” and hyperref assumes this is the meaning of t. Since it has to do several patches for its working, you end up with t being essentially redefined to its original meaning, which can be seen if you add showt after begin{document}



> t=macro:
->PD1-cmd t PD1t .


Without your redefinition and without hyperref, you'd get



> t=macro:
->OML-cmd t OMLt .


which is essentially the same (the encoding name may change when show is used for technical reasons which are beyond the scope of this answer).



Moral: don't use def if you don't know precisely what you're doing. And never redefine a command with renewcommand if you don't know precisely about it.







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