When does a floating point number overflow?





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Why is



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> false


but



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> true


?



My expectation was, that everything I add to the maximum value must overflow.










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    The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

    – Pointy
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:39


















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Why is



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> false


but



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> true


?



My expectation was, that everything I add to the maximum value must overflow.










share|improve this question


















  • 4





    The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

    – Pointy
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:39














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Why is



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> false


but



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> true


?



My expectation was, that everything I add to the maximum value must overflow.










share|improve this question














Why is



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> false


but



Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE
=> true


?



My expectation was, that everything I add to the maximum value must overflow.







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    The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

    – Pointy
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:39














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    The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

    – Pointy
    Nov 22 '18 at 14:39








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The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

– Pointy
Nov 22 '18 at 14:39





The number overflows when the mantissa and exponent are as "big" as possible. Adding MIN_VALUE doesn't do that because it's vanishingly small in comparison to MAX_VALUE. Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.

– Pointy
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Imagine it like this:



MAX_VALUE = Infinite



MIN_VALUE = 0



So, when you add MAX_VALUE with MIN_VALUE it's like you added 0. So it's still MAX_VALUE.




Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.







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    JavaScript’s Number.MAX_VALUE is misnamed. It is not the maximum representable value. It is the maximum representable finite value. The actual maximum representable value is infinity.



    If the name were correct, so that Number.MAX_VALUE were infinity, then Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE would be true, because infinity plus infinity is true.



    As it is the mathematical value of Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE is beyond the representable finite values, so it is rounded to infinity.



    Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE is true because arithmetic rounds to the nearest representable value, and adding a small value to the maximum finite value produces a result very close to the maximum finite value, so it rounds to the maximum finite value.



    (Note: The rule about rounding to the nearest representable value treats infinity as if it were in a normal place at the end of the finite values, so any result that is greater than or equal to Number.MAX_VALUE plus half a “step” beyond it rounds to infinity.)






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      Imagine it like this:



      MAX_VALUE = Infinite



      MIN_VALUE = 0



      So, when you add MAX_VALUE with MIN_VALUE it's like you added 0. So it's still MAX_VALUE.




      Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.







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        Imagine it like this:



        MAX_VALUE = Infinite



        MIN_VALUE = 0



        So, when you add MAX_VALUE with MIN_VALUE it's like you added 0. So it's still MAX_VALUE.




        Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.







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          Imagine it like this:



          MAX_VALUE = Infinite



          MIN_VALUE = 0



          So, when you add MAX_VALUE with MIN_VALUE it's like you added 0. So it's still MAX_VALUE.




          Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.







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          Imagine it like this:



          MAX_VALUE = Infinite



          MIN_VALUE = 0



          So, when you add MAX_VALUE with MIN_VALUE it's like you added 0. So it's still MAX_VALUE.




          Think of it as all the non-zero digits being far, far to the right, and therefore they have no net effect.








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              JavaScript’s Number.MAX_VALUE is misnamed. It is not the maximum representable value. It is the maximum representable finite value. The actual maximum representable value is infinity.



              If the name were correct, so that Number.MAX_VALUE were infinity, then Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE would be true, because infinity plus infinity is true.



              As it is the mathematical value of Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE is beyond the representable finite values, so it is rounded to infinity.



              Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE is true because arithmetic rounds to the nearest representable value, and adding a small value to the maximum finite value produces a result very close to the maximum finite value, so it rounds to the maximum finite value.



              (Note: The rule about rounding to the nearest representable value treats infinity as if it were in a normal place at the end of the finite values, so any result that is greater than or equal to Number.MAX_VALUE plus half a “step” beyond it rounds to infinity.)






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                JavaScript’s Number.MAX_VALUE is misnamed. It is not the maximum representable value. It is the maximum representable finite value. The actual maximum representable value is infinity.



                If the name were correct, so that Number.MAX_VALUE were infinity, then Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE would be true, because infinity plus infinity is true.



                As it is the mathematical value of Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE is beyond the representable finite values, so it is rounded to infinity.



                Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE is true because arithmetic rounds to the nearest representable value, and adding a small value to the maximum finite value produces a result very close to the maximum finite value, so it rounds to the maximum finite value.



                (Note: The rule about rounding to the nearest representable value treats infinity as if it were in a normal place at the end of the finite values, so any result that is greater than or equal to Number.MAX_VALUE plus half a “step” beyond it rounds to infinity.)






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                  JavaScript’s Number.MAX_VALUE is misnamed. It is not the maximum representable value. It is the maximum representable finite value. The actual maximum representable value is infinity.



                  If the name were correct, so that Number.MAX_VALUE were infinity, then Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE would be true, because infinity plus infinity is true.



                  As it is the mathematical value of Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE is beyond the representable finite values, so it is rounded to infinity.



                  Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE is true because arithmetic rounds to the nearest representable value, and adding a small value to the maximum finite value produces a result very close to the maximum finite value, so it rounds to the maximum finite value.



                  (Note: The rule about rounding to the nearest representable value treats infinity as if it were in a normal place at the end of the finite values, so any result that is greater than or equal to Number.MAX_VALUE plus half a “step” beyond it rounds to infinity.)






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                  JavaScript’s Number.MAX_VALUE is misnamed. It is not the maximum representable value. It is the maximum representable finite value. The actual maximum representable value is infinity.



                  If the name were correct, so that Number.MAX_VALUE were infinity, then Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE would be true, because infinity plus infinity is true.



                  As it is the mathematical value of Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MAX_VALUE is beyond the representable finite values, so it is rounded to infinity.



                  Number.MAX_VALUE + Number.MIN_VALUE == Number.MAX_VALUE is true because arithmetic rounds to the nearest representable value, and adding a small value to the maximum finite value produces a result very close to the maximum finite value, so it rounds to the maximum finite value.



                  (Note: The rule about rounding to the nearest representable value treats infinity as if it were in a normal place at the end of the finite values, so any result that is greater than or equal to Number.MAX_VALUE plus half a “step” beyond it rounds to infinity.)







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