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In the Land of Metal, there exists a tribe that has upheld the gospel of Manowar with such zeal that it modified their bodies.



Metalheads descend from humans, and may look human at a glance. A more careful examination, however, will reveal the traits their kind has acquired through the ages. These traits allow them to have a lifestyle that would be extremely harmful for humans; the man who tries to live like a metalhead usually does not live long.





Central to the life of the metalhead is headbanging. They bang their heads in the air for a number of reasons:




  • To show others their emotional state, such as being happy, content, angry, anxious, frustrated, or simply out of their mind;

  • As a greeting or compliment, or to thank someone for something;

  • As a reflex to music being played that suits their tastes;

  • As a mating display. They seem to be aroused by the flowing long hair of a potential mate oscillating in the air to the sound of metal.


Metalheads are able to bang their heads in the air for hours at a time without the need for rest, and without damaging their necks and brains. They are also able to continuously bang their heads to power metal, even at 180 bpm, with some record beating at 250 bpm. They also maintain this ability as long as they are fertile and sometimes into old age even.



Starting from an average human body for a template, what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?



I was inspired by Brütal Legend's headbangers for this question:



Brütal Legend headbangers



They have traits such as stronger neck musculature and thick skulls, but I think those are more fit for headbutting than headbanging.










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    As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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    I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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In the Land of Metal, there exists a tribe that has upheld the gospel of Manowar with such zeal that it modified their bodies.



Metalheads descend from humans, and may look human at a glance. A more careful examination, however, will reveal the traits their kind has acquired through the ages. These traits allow them to have a lifestyle that would be extremely harmful for humans; the man who tries to live like a metalhead usually does not live long.





Central to the life of the metalhead is headbanging. They bang their heads in the air for a number of reasons:




  • To show others their emotional state, such as being happy, content, angry, anxious, frustrated, or simply out of their mind;

  • As a greeting or compliment, or to thank someone for something;

  • As a reflex to music being played that suits their tastes;

  • As a mating display. They seem to be aroused by the flowing long hair of a potential mate oscillating in the air to the sound of metal.


Metalheads are able to bang their heads in the air for hours at a time without the need for rest, and without damaging their necks and brains. They are also able to continuously bang their heads to power metal, even at 180 bpm, with some record beating at 250 bpm. They also maintain this ability as long as they are fertile and sometimes into old age even.



Starting from an average human body for a template, what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?



I was inspired by Brütal Legend's headbangers for this question:



Brütal Legend headbangers



They have traits such as stronger neck musculature and thick skulls, but I think those are more fit for headbutting than headbanging.










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    As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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    I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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In the Land of Metal, there exists a tribe that has upheld the gospel of Manowar with such zeal that it modified their bodies.



Metalheads descend from humans, and may look human at a glance. A more careful examination, however, will reveal the traits their kind has acquired through the ages. These traits allow them to have a lifestyle that would be extremely harmful for humans; the man who tries to live like a metalhead usually does not live long.





Central to the life of the metalhead is headbanging. They bang their heads in the air for a number of reasons:




  • To show others their emotional state, such as being happy, content, angry, anxious, frustrated, or simply out of their mind;

  • As a greeting or compliment, or to thank someone for something;

  • As a reflex to music being played that suits their tastes;

  • As a mating display. They seem to be aroused by the flowing long hair of a potential mate oscillating in the air to the sound of metal.


Metalheads are able to bang their heads in the air for hours at a time without the need for rest, and without damaging their necks and brains. They are also able to continuously bang their heads to power metal, even at 180 bpm, with some record beating at 250 bpm. They also maintain this ability as long as they are fertile and sometimes into old age even.



Starting from an average human body for a template, what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?



I was inspired by Brütal Legend's headbangers for this question:



Brütal Legend headbangers



They have traits such as stronger neck musculature and thick skulls, but I think those are more fit for headbutting than headbanging.










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In the Land of Metal, there exists a tribe that has upheld the gospel of Manowar with such zeal that it modified their bodies.



Metalheads descend from humans, and may look human at a glance. A more careful examination, however, will reveal the traits their kind has acquired through the ages. These traits allow them to have a lifestyle that would be extremely harmful for humans; the man who tries to live like a metalhead usually does not live long.





Central to the life of the metalhead is headbanging. They bang their heads in the air for a number of reasons:




  • To show others their emotional state, such as being happy, content, angry, anxious, frustrated, or simply out of their mind;

  • As a greeting or compliment, or to thank someone for something;

  • As a reflex to music being played that suits their tastes;

  • As a mating display. They seem to be aroused by the flowing long hair of a potential mate oscillating in the air to the sound of metal.


Metalheads are able to bang their heads in the air for hours at a time without the need for rest, and without damaging their necks and brains. They are also able to continuously bang their heads to power metal, even at 180 bpm, with some record beating at 250 bpm. They also maintain this ability as long as they are fertile and sometimes into old age even.



Starting from an average human body for a template, what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?



I was inspired by Brütal Legend's headbangers for this question:



Brütal Legend headbangers



They have traits such as stronger neck musculature and thick skulls, but I think those are more fit for headbutting than headbanging.







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    As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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    I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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    – Alexander von Wernherr
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    As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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    – djsmiley2k
    Nov 20 '18 at 9:46






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    I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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    – Alexander von Wernherr
    Nov 20 '18 at 10:15






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As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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As a true metal head, I'd like to inform you that I have head banged for hours at a time without stopping.... (well, maybe small breaks between songs). I've never had any noticeable long term damage, however there has been times where I've been unable to look up for a day or so (simply unable to raise my head).
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I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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I am looking forward to the other questions. Are northern metalheads born with corpsepaint? Can they still talk or only growl? Is their skin actually made of leather?
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what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?




As any student in Engineering is taught, when you have oscillating masses and one wants to improve frequency and reduce stresses, it is always a good idea to reduce the masses.



So, lighter skulls seems to be a must for your homo caput oscillantis.



Moreover our neck has a somehow faulty design: due to the way the neck muscles are connected to the skull they make a first type lever with the force arm shorter than the resisting arm, as a consequence they need to exert a much higher force to move the head than the weight of the head.



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To improve headbanging the skull shall be modified: the neck has to move more to the center and the face has to become shorter, while the back of the head has to somehow extend.



Considering that on falling one cannot beat gravity, and this somehow limits the oscillating frequency of the headbanging, it would be also an improvement to develop stronger antagonist muscles on the throat region, so that they can actively pull down the face when it has to execute that part of the banging.






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    Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
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    @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
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    Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
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    @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
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In our world, we do have an animal that habitually violently smashes its head against things at high frequency: the woodpecker.



Their heads have multiple adaptations to the repeated stresses caused by pecking, such as:




  • A specific kind of spongy bone structure is lining the skull. It is compressible and most of it is located around the front of the back, where the forces are strongest. So your metalheads could have such spongy bone in their heads, probably differently aligned as the headbanging movement is not back-to-front like in woodpeckers.


  • The hyoid bone (tongue bone) is much larger and interconnected, acting as a spring to further reduce the acceleration forces.


  • The tongue itself is similarly longer and wraps around the braincase, acting like a kind of a harness.


  • The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual, it is aligned have a maximum cross-section in the direction of the pecking, so it has the most possible surface to spread the impacts.


  • During the actual striking, the woodpecker closes its third eyelid which keeps the eye in place, and strains its neck muscles, tightening everything around its brain, so it is not hitting against anything inside the head.







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    "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
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    Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
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Their skulls and necks would eventually resemble those of our primitive ancestors.



First the most obvious: the neck. Since individuals with frail necks who cannot bang their heads for hours are sexually unattractive, broader vertebrae would drive evolution to produce stronger necks. These also provider broader spaces for stronger tendons to attach to the bones. These are absolutely nessecary to prevent disk herniation into old age.



Now to the skull: The constant oscillating of the skull puts preasure on the soft and squishy brain. Their skulls would eventually resemble those of woodpeckers: The bone structure is much thicker and sponge-like to cushion the brain.




Notably, the woodpecker's brain is surrounded by thick, platelike spongy bone. At a microscopic level, woodpeckers have a large number of trabeculae, tiny beamlike projections of bone that form the mineral "mesh" that makes up this spongy bone plate. These trabeculae are also closer together than they are in the skylark skull, suggesting this microstructure acts as armor protecting the brain.




Since headbangig pushes the brain alternatingly against the front and back of the skull, These are the parts that are most reinforced. The skull would get a slightly more oval form.



Such an rather oval skull could provide an opportunity for an alternative headbanging mechanism: by tendon tension. There is enough room on the posterior skull to attach thick, strong tendons, just like in the legs. And just like with running, they store the kinetic energy of the skull falling forward and pull it back like a rubber band without needing to excert all the energy with muscles alone. The conservation of energy would probably be an evolutionary advantage, so the metalheads would actually loose their broad necks.



The eyes (or more precisely the eye sockets) would also become slightly more prominent. If headbanging constitutes most of your social interactions, you cannot let your eyes blindly stare into nothing until you're done. The eyes have to follow the back-and-forth movement constantly and the corresponding muscles are trained from early age, eventually taking up more space in the skull.






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    The most realistic evolution pattern would be simply to develop stronger neck muscles and tendons. Imagine a normal person with a wrestler's neck.



    Headbanging for hours means your headbangers will get a lot of blood flow to the brain, and a lot of blood flowing overall to transport all the oxygen needed.



    That is all good cardiovascular activity, which means an overweight headbanger will be incredibly rare, also they would live longer due to the continuous activity. Physical activity also drastically reduces chances of diabetes and most times it can reverse it even with a poor diet.



    Longer life mean more potential for reproduction, your metalheads will be fertile even in old age.



    If they headbang to show emotions and they headbang most of the times it means their society will be really open and emotional as a whole.






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      what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?




      As any student in Engineering is taught, when you have oscillating masses and one wants to improve frequency and reduce stresses, it is always a good idea to reduce the masses.



      So, lighter skulls seems to be a must for your homo caput oscillantis.



      Moreover our neck has a somehow faulty design: due to the way the neck muscles are connected to the skull they make a first type lever with the force arm shorter than the resisting arm, as a consequence they need to exert a much higher force to move the head than the weight of the head.



      neck lever



      To improve headbanging the skull shall be modified: the neck has to move more to the center and the face has to become shorter, while the back of the head has to somehow extend.



      Considering that on falling one cannot beat gravity, and this somehow limits the oscillating frequency of the headbanging, it would be also an improvement to develop stronger antagonist muscles on the throat region, so that they can actively pull down the face when it has to execute that part of the banging.






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        Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
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        @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
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        @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
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        Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
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        @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
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      what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?




      As any student in Engineering is taught, when you have oscillating masses and one wants to improve frequency and reduce stresses, it is always a good idea to reduce the masses.



      So, lighter skulls seems to be a must for your homo caput oscillantis.



      Moreover our neck has a somehow faulty design: due to the way the neck muscles are connected to the skull they make a first type lever with the force arm shorter than the resisting arm, as a consequence they need to exert a much higher force to move the head than the weight of the head.



      neck lever



      To improve headbanging the skull shall be modified: the neck has to move more to the center and the face has to become shorter, while the back of the head has to somehow extend.



      Considering that on falling one cannot beat gravity, and this somehow limits the oscillating frequency of the headbanging, it would be also an improvement to develop stronger antagonist muscles on the throat region, so that they can actively pull down the face when it has to execute that part of the banging.






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        Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
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        @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
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        @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
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        Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
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        @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
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      what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?




      As any student in Engineering is taught, when you have oscillating masses and one wants to improve frequency and reduce stresses, it is always a good idea to reduce the masses.



      So, lighter skulls seems to be a must for your homo caput oscillantis.



      Moreover our neck has a somehow faulty design: due to the way the neck muscles are connected to the skull they make a first type lever with the force arm shorter than the resisting arm, as a consequence they need to exert a much higher force to move the head than the weight of the head.



      neck lever



      To improve headbanging the skull shall be modified: the neck has to move more to the center and the face has to become shorter, while the back of the head has to somehow extend.



      Considering that on falling one cannot beat gravity, and this somehow limits the oscillating frequency of the headbanging, it would be also an improvement to develop stronger antagonist muscles on the throat region, so that they can actively pull down the face when it has to execute that part of the banging.






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      what changes to anatomy would be required to allow for such an amazing headbanging capacity?




      As any student in Engineering is taught, when you have oscillating masses and one wants to improve frequency and reduce stresses, it is always a good idea to reduce the masses.



      So, lighter skulls seems to be a must for your homo caput oscillantis.



      Moreover our neck has a somehow faulty design: due to the way the neck muscles are connected to the skull they make a first type lever with the force arm shorter than the resisting arm, as a consequence they need to exert a much higher force to move the head than the weight of the head.



      neck lever



      To improve headbanging the skull shall be modified: the neck has to move more to the center and the face has to become shorter, while the back of the head has to somehow extend.



      Considering that on falling one cannot beat gravity, and this somehow limits the oscillating frequency of the headbanging, it would be also an improvement to develop stronger antagonist muscles on the throat region, so that they can actively pull down the face when it has to execute that part of the banging.







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        Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
        $endgroup$
        – asgallant
        Nov 19 '18 at 18:55






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        @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
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        – user56803
        Nov 19 '18 at 19:57






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        @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
        $endgroup$
        – asgallant
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:06






      • 1




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        Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
        $endgroup$
        – chasly from UK
        Nov 19 '18 at 22:48






      • 1




        $begingroup$
        @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
        $endgroup$
        – Flater
        Nov 20 '18 at 8:17
















      • 1




        $begingroup$
        Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
        $endgroup$
        – asgallant
        Nov 19 '18 at 18:55






      • 1




        $begingroup$
        @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
        $endgroup$
        – user56803
        Nov 19 '18 at 19:57






      • 9




        $begingroup$
        @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
        $endgroup$
        – asgallant
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:06






      • 1




        $begingroup$
        Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
        $endgroup$
        – chasly from UK
        Nov 19 '18 at 22:48






      • 1




        $begingroup$
        @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
        $endgroup$
        – Flater
        Nov 20 '18 at 8:17










      1




      1




      $begingroup$
      Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
      $endgroup$
      – asgallant
      Nov 19 '18 at 18:55




      $begingroup$
      Headbangers would need extra protection for their brains as well, as repetitively banging ones head causes impact damage to the brain if done for too long. Perhaps there is some kind of brain shrink/skull expansion combined with a airbag-like fluid sacs surrounding the brain?
      $endgroup$
      – asgallant
      Nov 19 '18 at 18:55




      1




      1




      $begingroup$
      @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
      $endgroup$
      – user56803
      Nov 19 '18 at 19:57




      $begingroup$
      @asgallant the beain has already a protective fluid surrounding it.
      $endgroup$
      – user56803
      Nov 19 '18 at 19:57




      9




      9




      $begingroup$
      @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
      $endgroup$
      – asgallant
      Nov 19 '18 at 20:06




      $begingroup$
      @eries yes, but it is nowhere near enough to protect against the damage possible from headbanging as describe in the OP's question. The brain would be slamming into the front and back of the skull at 3-4Hz for extended periods of time. Even without the extremes of headbanging the OP proposes, people in the real world have experienced internal bleeding and concussion symptoms from headbanging (not common, but it happens). The headbangers would be prone to dizziness, nausea, and headaches without proper brain protection.
      $endgroup$
      – asgallant
      Nov 19 '18 at 20:06




      1




      1




      $begingroup$
      Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      Nov 19 '18 at 22:48




      $begingroup$
      Woodpeckers do it. Fighting rams do it. Why not humans?
      $endgroup$
      – chasly from UK
      Nov 19 '18 at 22:48




      1




      1




      $begingroup$
      @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
      $endgroup$
      – Flater
      Nov 20 '18 at 8:17






      $begingroup$
      @chaslyfromUK: Rams and metalheads engage in very different forms of headbanging. Rams, well, ram with their head, which is a linear force in one direction applied to another object. They need a straight and inflexible spine to prevent their spines from buckling. As established in the answer, metalheads mainly have to deal with oscillation, not exerting force on other objects, and they will require a flexible spine (at least at the neck) - the opposite of what a ram needs.
      $endgroup$
      – Flater
      Nov 20 '18 at 8:17













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      $begingroup$

      In our world, we do have an animal that habitually violently smashes its head against things at high frequency: the woodpecker.



      Their heads have multiple adaptations to the repeated stresses caused by pecking, such as:




      • A specific kind of spongy bone structure is lining the skull. It is compressible and most of it is located around the front of the back, where the forces are strongest. So your metalheads could have such spongy bone in their heads, probably differently aligned as the headbanging movement is not back-to-front like in woodpeckers.


      • The hyoid bone (tongue bone) is much larger and interconnected, acting as a spring to further reduce the acceleration forces.


      • The tongue itself is similarly longer and wraps around the braincase, acting like a kind of a harness.


      • The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual, it is aligned have a maximum cross-section in the direction of the pecking, so it has the most possible surface to spread the impacts.


      • During the actual striking, the woodpecker closes its third eyelid which keeps the eye in place, and strains its neck muscles, tightening everything around its brain, so it is not hitting against anything inside the head.







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        $begingroup$
        "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
        $endgroup$
        – Renan
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:14






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
        $endgroup$
        – Darren Bartrup-Cook
        Nov 20 '18 at 11:54










      • $begingroup$
        "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
        $endgroup$
        – Syndic
        Nov 22 '18 at 6:46
















      38












      $begingroup$

      In our world, we do have an animal that habitually violently smashes its head against things at high frequency: the woodpecker.



      Their heads have multiple adaptations to the repeated stresses caused by pecking, such as:




      • A specific kind of spongy bone structure is lining the skull. It is compressible and most of it is located around the front of the back, where the forces are strongest. So your metalheads could have such spongy bone in their heads, probably differently aligned as the headbanging movement is not back-to-front like in woodpeckers.


      • The hyoid bone (tongue bone) is much larger and interconnected, acting as a spring to further reduce the acceleration forces.


      • The tongue itself is similarly longer and wraps around the braincase, acting like a kind of a harness.


      • The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual, it is aligned have a maximum cross-section in the direction of the pecking, so it has the most possible surface to spread the impacts.


      • During the actual striking, the woodpecker closes its third eyelid which keeps the eye in place, and strains its neck muscles, tightening everything around its brain, so it is not hitting against anything inside the head.







      share|improve this answer









      $endgroup$









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        $begingroup$
        "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
        $endgroup$
        – Renan
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:14






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
        $endgroup$
        – Darren Bartrup-Cook
        Nov 20 '18 at 11:54










      • $begingroup$
        "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
        $endgroup$
        – Syndic
        Nov 22 '18 at 6:46














      38












      38








      38





      $begingroup$

      In our world, we do have an animal that habitually violently smashes its head against things at high frequency: the woodpecker.



      Their heads have multiple adaptations to the repeated stresses caused by pecking, such as:




      • A specific kind of spongy bone structure is lining the skull. It is compressible and most of it is located around the front of the back, where the forces are strongest. So your metalheads could have such spongy bone in their heads, probably differently aligned as the headbanging movement is not back-to-front like in woodpeckers.


      • The hyoid bone (tongue bone) is much larger and interconnected, acting as a spring to further reduce the acceleration forces.


      • The tongue itself is similarly longer and wraps around the braincase, acting like a kind of a harness.


      • The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual, it is aligned have a maximum cross-section in the direction of the pecking, so it has the most possible surface to spread the impacts.


      • During the actual striking, the woodpecker closes its third eyelid which keeps the eye in place, and strains its neck muscles, tightening everything around its brain, so it is not hitting against anything inside the head.







      share|improve this answer









      $endgroup$



      In our world, we do have an animal that habitually violently smashes its head against things at high frequency: the woodpecker.



      Their heads have multiple adaptations to the repeated stresses caused by pecking, such as:




      • A specific kind of spongy bone structure is lining the skull. It is compressible and most of it is located around the front of the back, where the forces are strongest. So your metalheads could have such spongy bone in their heads, probably differently aligned as the headbanging movement is not back-to-front like in woodpeckers.


      • The hyoid bone (tongue bone) is much larger and interconnected, acting as a spring to further reduce the acceleration forces.


      • The tongue itself is similarly longer and wraps around the braincase, acting like a kind of a harness.


      • The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual, it is aligned have a maximum cross-section in the direction of the pecking, so it has the most possible surface to spread the impacts.


      • During the actual striking, the woodpecker closes its third eyelid which keeps the eye in place, and strains its neck muscles, tightening everything around its brain, so it is not hitting against anything inside the head.








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        $begingroup$
        "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
        $endgroup$
        – Renan
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:14






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
        $endgroup$
        – Darren Bartrup-Cook
        Nov 20 '18 at 11:54










      • $begingroup$
        "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
        $endgroup$
        – Syndic
        Nov 22 '18 at 6:46














      • 22




        $begingroup$
        "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
        $endgroup$
        – Renan
        Nov 19 '18 at 20:14






      • 2




        $begingroup$
        Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
        $endgroup$
        – Darren Bartrup-Cook
        Nov 20 '18 at 11:54










      • $begingroup$
        "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
        $endgroup$
        – Syndic
        Nov 22 '18 at 6:46








      22




      22




      $begingroup$
      "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
      $endgroup$
      – Renan
      Nov 19 '18 at 20:14




      $begingroup$
      "The brain itself is much flatter and smoother than usual" well, this does sound like you're describing my IRL mosh pit buddies.
      $endgroup$
      – Renan
      Nov 19 '18 at 20:14




      2




      2




      $begingroup$
      Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
      $endgroup$
      – Darren Bartrup-Cook
      Nov 20 '18 at 11:54




      $begingroup$
      Shock absorbers on the brain - where my line of thinking was going.
      $endgroup$
      – Darren Bartrup-Cook
      Nov 20 '18 at 11:54












      $begingroup$
      "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
      $endgroup$
      – Syndic
      Nov 22 '18 at 6:46




      $begingroup$
      "the tongue is longer"... Gene Simmons, anyone?
      $endgroup$
      – Syndic
      Nov 22 '18 at 6:46











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      Their skulls and necks would eventually resemble those of our primitive ancestors.



      First the most obvious: the neck. Since individuals with frail necks who cannot bang their heads for hours are sexually unattractive, broader vertebrae would drive evolution to produce stronger necks. These also provider broader spaces for stronger tendons to attach to the bones. These are absolutely nessecary to prevent disk herniation into old age.



      Now to the skull: The constant oscillating of the skull puts preasure on the soft and squishy brain. Their skulls would eventually resemble those of woodpeckers: The bone structure is much thicker and sponge-like to cushion the brain.




      Notably, the woodpecker's brain is surrounded by thick, platelike spongy bone. At a microscopic level, woodpeckers have a large number of trabeculae, tiny beamlike projections of bone that form the mineral "mesh" that makes up this spongy bone plate. These trabeculae are also closer together than they are in the skylark skull, suggesting this microstructure acts as armor protecting the brain.




      Since headbangig pushes the brain alternatingly against the front and back of the skull, These are the parts that are most reinforced. The skull would get a slightly more oval form.



      Such an rather oval skull could provide an opportunity for an alternative headbanging mechanism: by tendon tension. There is enough room on the posterior skull to attach thick, strong tendons, just like in the legs. And just like with running, they store the kinetic energy of the skull falling forward and pull it back like a rubber band without needing to excert all the energy with muscles alone. The conservation of energy would probably be an evolutionary advantage, so the metalheads would actually loose their broad necks.



      The eyes (or more precisely the eye sockets) would also become slightly more prominent. If headbanging constitutes most of your social interactions, you cannot let your eyes blindly stare into nothing until you're done. The eyes have to follow the back-and-forth movement constantly and the corresponding muscles are trained from early age, eventually taking up more space in the skull.






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        $begingroup$

        Their skulls and necks would eventually resemble those of our primitive ancestors.



        First the most obvious: the neck. Since individuals with frail necks who cannot bang their heads for hours are sexually unattractive, broader vertebrae would drive evolution to produce stronger necks. These also provider broader spaces for stronger tendons to attach to the bones. These are absolutely nessecary to prevent disk herniation into old age.



        Now to the skull: The constant oscillating of the skull puts preasure on the soft and squishy brain. Their skulls would eventually resemble those of woodpeckers: The bone structure is much thicker and sponge-like to cushion the brain.




        Notably, the woodpecker's brain is surrounded by thick, platelike spongy bone. At a microscopic level, woodpeckers have a large number of trabeculae, tiny beamlike projections of bone that form the mineral "mesh" that makes up this spongy bone plate. These trabeculae are also closer together than they are in the skylark skull, suggesting this microstructure acts as armor protecting the brain.




        Since headbangig pushes the brain alternatingly against the front and back of the skull, These are the parts that are most reinforced. The skull would get a slightly more oval form.



        Such an rather oval skull could provide an opportunity for an alternative headbanging mechanism: by tendon tension. There is enough room on the posterior skull to attach thick, strong tendons, just like in the legs. And just like with running, they store the kinetic energy of the skull falling forward and pull it back like a rubber band without needing to excert all the energy with muscles alone. The conservation of energy would probably be an evolutionary advantage, so the metalheads would actually loose their broad necks.



        The eyes (or more precisely the eye sockets) would also become slightly more prominent. If headbanging constitutes most of your social interactions, you cannot let your eyes blindly stare into nothing until you're done. The eyes have to follow the back-and-forth movement constantly and the corresponding muscles are trained from early age, eventually taking up more space in the skull.






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$
















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          16








          16





          $begingroup$

          Their skulls and necks would eventually resemble those of our primitive ancestors.



          First the most obvious: the neck. Since individuals with frail necks who cannot bang their heads for hours are sexually unattractive, broader vertebrae would drive evolution to produce stronger necks. These also provider broader spaces for stronger tendons to attach to the bones. These are absolutely nessecary to prevent disk herniation into old age.



          Now to the skull: The constant oscillating of the skull puts preasure on the soft and squishy brain. Their skulls would eventually resemble those of woodpeckers: The bone structure is much thicker and sponge-like to cushion the brain.




          Notably, the woodpecker's brain is surrounded by thick, platelike spongy bone. At a microscopic level, woodpeckers have a large number of trabeculae, tiny beamlike projections of bone that form the mineral "mesh" that makes up this spongy bone plate. These trabeculae are also closer together than they are in the skylark skull, suggesting this microstructure acts as armor protecting the brain.




          Since headbangig pushes the brain alternatingly against the front and back of the skull, These are the parts that are most reinforced. The skull would get a slightly more oval form.



          Such an rather oval skull could provide an opportunity for an alternative headbanging mechanism: by tendon tension. There is enough room on the posterior skull to attach thick, strong tendons, just like in the legs. And just like with running, they store the kinetic energy of the skull falling forward and pull it back like a rubber band without needing to excert all the energy with muscles alone. The conservation of energy would probably be an evolutionary advantage, so the metalheads would actually loose their broad necks.



          The eyes (or more precisely the eye sockets) would also become slightly more prominent. If headbanging constitutes most of your social interactions, you cannot let your eyes blindly stare into nothing until you're done. The eyes have to follow the back-and-forth movement constantly and the corresponding muscles are trained from early age, eventually taking up more space in the skull.






          share|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          Their skulls and necks would eventually resemble those of our primitive ancestors.



          First the most obvious: the neck. Since individuals with frail necks who cannot bang their heads for hours are sexually unattractive, broader vertebrae would drive evolution to produce stronger necks. These also provider broader spaces for stronger tendons to attach to the bones. These are absolutely nessecary to prevent disk herniation into old age.



          Now to the skull: The constant oscillating of the skull puts preasure on the soft and squishy brain. Their skulls would eventually resemble those of woodpeckers: The bone structure is much thicker and sponge-like to cushion the brain.




          Notably, the woodpecker's brain is surrounded by thick, platelike spongy bone. At a microscopic level, woodpeckers have a large number of trabeculae, tiny beamlike projections of bone that form the mineral "mesh" that makes up this spongy bone plate. These trabeculae are also closer together than they are in the skylark skull, suggesting this microstructure acts as armor protecting the brain.




          Since headbangig pushes the brain alternatingly against the front and back of the skull, These are the parts that are most reinforced. The skull would get a slightly more oval form.



          Such an rather oval skull could provide an opportunity for an alternative headbanging mechanism: by tendon tension. There is enough room on the posterior skull to attach thick, strong tendons, just like in the legs. And just like with running, they store the kinetic energy of the skull falling forward and pull it back like a rubber band without needing to excert all the energy with muscles alone. The conservation of energy would probably be an evolutionary advantage, so the metalheads would actually loose their broad necks.



          The eyes (or more precisely the eye sockets) would also become slightly more prominent. If headbanging constitutes most of your social interactions, you cannot let your eyes blindly stare into nothing until you're done. The eyes have to follow the back-and-forth movement constantly and the corresponding muscles are trained from early age, eventually taking up more space in the skull.







          share|improve this answer














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              The most realistic evolution pattern would be simply to develop stronger neck muscles and tendons. Imagine a normal person with a wrestler's neck.



              Headbanging for hours means your headbangers will get a lot of blood flow to the brain, and a lot of blood flowing overall to transport all the oxygen needed.



              That is all good cardiovascular activity, which means an overweight headbanger will be incredibly rare, also they would live longer due to the continuous activity. Physical activity also drastically reduces chances of diabetes and most times it can reverse it even with a poor diet.



              Longer life mean more potential for reproduction, your metalheads will be fertile even in old age.



              If they headbang to show emotions and they headbang most of the times it means their society will be really open and emotional as a whole.






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                $begingroup$

                The most realistic evolution pattern would be simply to develop stronger neck muscles and tendons. Imagine a normal person with a wrestler's neck.



                Headbanging for hours means your headbangers will get a lot of blood flow to the brain, and a lot of blood flowing overall to transport all the oxygen needed.



                That is all good cardiovascular activity, which means an overweight headbanger will be incredibly rare, also they would live longer due to the continuous activity. Physical activity also drastically reduces chances of diabetes and most times it can reverse it even with a poor diet.



                Longer life mean more potential for reproduction, your metalheads will be fertile even in old age.



                If they headbang to show emotions and they headbang most of the times it means their society will be really open and emotional as a whole.






                share|improve this answer











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                  1








                  1





                  $begingroup$

                  The most realistic evolution pattern would be simply to develop stronger neck muscles and tendons. Imagine a normal person with a wrestler's neck.



                  Headbanging for hours means your headbangers will get a lot of blood flow to the brain, and a lot of blood flowing overall to transport all the oxygen needed.



                  That is all good cardiovascular activity, which means an overweight headbanger will be incredibly rare, also they would live longer due to the continuous activity. Physical activity also drastically reduces chances of diabetes and most times it can reverse it even with a poor diet.



                  Longer life mean more potential for reproduction, your metalheads will be fertile even in old age.



                  If they headbang to show emotions and they headbang most of the times it means their society will be really open and emotional as a whole.






                  share|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$



                  The most realistic evolution pattern would be simply to develop stronger neck muscles and tendons. Imagine a normal person with a wrestler's neck.



                  Headbanging for hours means your headbangers will get a lot of blood flow to the brain, and a lot of blood flowing overall to transport all the oxygen needed.



                  That is all good cardiovascular activity, which means an overweight headbanger will be incredibly rare, also they would live longer due to the continuous activity. Physical activity also drastically reduces chances of diabetes and most times it can reverse it even with a poor diet.



                  Longer life mean more potential for reproduction, your metalheads will be fertile even in old age.



                  If they headbang to show emotions and they headbang most of the times it means their society will be really open and emotional as a whole.







                  share|improve this answer














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