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I have a ktable kafka linked to a topic however when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable And is it possible to keep the values of the Ktable while those of its topic are deleted?










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  • Have you heard about topic compaction?
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  • when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
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  • @cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
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I have a ktable kafka linked to a topic however when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable And is it possible to keep the values of the Ktable while those of its topic are deleted?










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  • Have you heard about topic compaction?
    – cricket_007
    Nov 14 '18 at 15:47










  • when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
    – Matthias J. Sax
    Nov 14 '18 at 23:43










  • @cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
    – Mlamlu
    Nov 19 '18 at 9:55














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I have a ktable kafka linked to a topic however when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable And is it possible to keep the values of the Ktable while those of its topic are deleted?










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  • Have you heard about topic compaction?
    – cricket_007
    Nov 14 '18 at 15:47










  • when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
    – Matthias J. Sax
    Nov 14 '18 at 23:43










  • @cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
    – Mlamlu
    Nov 19 '18 at 9:55


















  • Have you heard about topic compaction?
    – cricket_007
    Nov 14 '18 at 15:47










  • when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
    – Matthias J. Sax
    Nov 14 '18 at 23:43










  • @cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
    – Mlamlu
    Nov 19 '18 at 9:55
















Have you heard about topic compaction?
– cricket_007
Nov 14 '18 at 15:47




Have you heard about topic compaction?
– cricket_007
Nov 14 '18 at 15:47












when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
– Matthias J. Sax
Nov 14 '18 at 23:43




when retention is done on the topic the messages are also deleted in my ktable if the topic user retention but not compaction, the data would not be deleted from the ktable automatically -- however, if you loose the ktable, the data is of course gone.
– Matthias J. Sax
Nov 14 '18 at 23:43












@cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
– Mlamlu
Nov 19 '18 at 9:55




@cricket_007 No, but I think this is the solution to my problem thank you!
– Mlamlu
Nov 19 '18 at 9:55












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Changelog topics are log compacted with infinite retention time. At any time, if there is a new event coming up your topic, it will update the state in the KTables for that key.



In your scenario, if you need to make the data available even when source topic is deleted, I will recommend publish the KTable into some output topic to make it more stable.

As KTables are exposed only within the applications and built on top of changelog topics, once your application is gone, you will lose the data unless you use persistent state store.






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    Changelog topics are log compacted with infinite retention time. At any time, if there is a new event coming up your topic, it will update the state in the KTables for that key.



    In your scenario, if you need to make the data available even when source topic is deleted, I will recommend publish the KTable into some output topic to make it more stable.

    As KTables are exposed only within the applications and built on top of changelog topics, once your application is gone, you will lose the data unless you use persistent state store.






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      Changelog topics are log compacted with infinite retention time. At any time, if there is a new event coming up your topic, it will update the state in the KTables for that key.



      In your scenario, if you need to make the data available even when source topic is deleted, I will recommend publish the KTable into some output topic to make it more stable.

      As KTables are exposed only within the applications and built on top of changelog topics, once your application is gone, you will lose the data unless you use persistent state store.






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        Changelog topics are log compacted with infinite retention time. At any time, if there is a new event coming up your topic, it will update the state in the KTables for that key.



        In your scenario, if you need to make the data available even when source topic is deleted, I will recommend publish the KTable into some output topic to make it more stable.

        As KTables are exposed only within the applications and built on top of changelog topics, once your application is gone, you will lose the data unless you use persistent state store.






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        Changelog topics are log compacted with infinite retention time. At any time, if there is a new event coming up your topic, it will update the state in the KTables for that key.



        In your scenario, if you need to make the data available even when source topic is deleted, I will recommend publish the KTable into some output topic to make it more stable.

        As KTables are exposed only within the applications and built on top of changelog topics, once your application is gone, you will lose the data unless you use persistent state store.







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